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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Hi Rich<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I agree to your comments about <st1:City
w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Ajax</st1:place></st1:City> – however the
analysis has some revealing insights about Adobe Flex, Silverlight and Open
Laszlo. Though all RIA technologies are exponentially growing, however Adobe
Flex has steeper growth curve – Silver light is receiving good response from
market as well and I heard it somehow allows search engines to index and read
the content developed in Silverlight. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Khurram Samad<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>GeniTeam | Generation Internet Team<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;color:windowtext;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font
size=2 color=black face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;
color:windowtext'> Rich Christiansen [mailto:warproof@warproof.com] <br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Friday, November 09, 2007
2:47 AM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> Khurram Samad<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Cc:</span></b> 'Rich Christiansen'; 'Laszlo
Users'<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [Laszlo-user] Laszlo
Adoption</span></font><font color=black><span style='color:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Helvetica><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Helvetica'>Thanks Khurram,<br>
<br>
I modified your search terms a bit to get a better feel - adding
"laszlo" as well yields a more pleasant picture for OpenLaszlo.
I don't think the "openlaszlo" and "laszlo" graphs can be
added to each other since one job posting could use both "OpenLaszlo"
and "Laszlo" as terms.<br>
<br>
Check it out:<br>
<a
href="http://www.indeed.com/jobtrends?q=%22adobe+flex%22%2C+silverlight%2C+javafx%2C+openlaszlo%2C+laszlo">http://www.indeed.com/jobtrends?q=%22adobe+flex%22%2C+silverlight%2C+javafx%2C+openlaszlo%2C+laszlo</a><br>
<br>
Also, on a relative scale:<br>
<a
href="http://www.indeed.com/jobtrends?q=%22adobe+flex%22%2C+silverlight%2C+javafx%2C+openlaszlo%2C+laszlo&relative=1">http://www.indeed.com/jobtrends?q=%22adobe+flex%22%2C+silverlight%2C+javafx%2C+openlaszlo%2C+laszlo&relative=1</a><br>
<br>
And finally, note what happens when "<st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">ajax</st1:place></st1:City>"
is included:<br>
<a
href="http://www.indeed.com/jobtrends?q=%22adobe+flex%22%2C+silverlight%2C+javafx%2C+openlaszlo%2C+laszlo%2C+ajax&l=">http://www.indeed.com/jobtrends?q=%22adobe+flex%22%2C+silverlight%2C+javafx%2C+openlaszlo%2C+laszlo%2C+ajax&l=</a><br>
<br>
True, <st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">ajax</st1:place></st1:City> is
used for more than just RIA, and has become somewhat of a meaningless buzzword
anyway, but still...Wow!<br>
<br>
-Rich<br>
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Khurram Samad wrote: <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I tried to calculate Adaption rate by
using “Job Advertisement” as proxy. I looked at Indeed.com for data<u1:p></u1:p></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><a
href="http://www.indeed.com/jobtrends?q=%22adobe+flex%22%2C+silverlight%2C+javafx%2C+openlaszlo&l"
moz-do-not-send=true>http://www.indeed.com/jobtrends?q=%22adobe+flex%22%2C+silverlight%2C+javafx%2C+openlaszlo&l</a>=<u1:p></u1:p></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I could not locate, but I pricked this
idea from some blog and think it helps in predicting the Open Laszlo Adoption
in depth.<u1:p></u1:p></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Khurram Samad<u1:p></u1:p></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>GeniTeam | Generation Internet Team<u1:p></u1:p></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><a href="http://www.geniteam.com/"
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 color=black face=Tahoma><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;color:windowtext;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font
size=2 color=black face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;
color:windowtext'> <a href="mailto:laszlo-user-bounces@openlaszlo.org">laszlo-user-bounces@openlaszlo.org</a>
[<a href="mailto:laszlo-user-bounces@openlaszlo.org">mailto:laszlo-user-bounces@openlaszlo.org</a>]
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Rich Christiansen<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Friday, November 09, 2007
12:56 AM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> Laszlo Users<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> [Laszlo-user] Laszlo Adoption</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Helvetica><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Helvetica'>Hey all,<br>
<br>
Not sure if this is the right forum for this question - if not, let me know and
I'll repost somewhere else.<br>
<br>
As an RIA consultant, I do most of my work in OpenLaszlo. However, I'm
not ignorant to the fact that there are other alternatives out there. I
love recommending Laszlo for projects, but I worry that it isn't taking off as
fast as it could. Out of curiosity, can someone provide some insight on
the adoption rate of OpenLaszlo? Specifically, I'd like to know some
historical figures as well as the current adoption level, especially with
regard to competing technologies (plain <st1:City u4:st="on"><st1:place u4:st="on"><st1:City
w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">AJAX</st1:place></st1:City></st1:place></st1:City>,
Flex, etc)<br>
<br>
I think Laszlo is amazing, but I wonder why it's not being used more frequently
in the RIA space. Any ideas on why this might be the case?<br>
<br>
Thanks so much for your thoughts! :)<br>
-Rich</span></font><u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></p>
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