[Laszlo-user] IDE4Laszlo status

[Cortlandt Winters]

I would definitely be interested in this and would definitely be able to
help. This is something I've had in mind since the drawing api was first
added.

On 3/24/07, David Temkin <temkin at laszlosystems.com> wrote:
>
> mt1,
>
> IDE4Laszlo -- we (Laszlo Systems) haven't done anything with it and
> don't plan to. Doesn't mean someone else can't do something with it.
>
> One idea that we're discussing now is to kick off a project to make
> an LZX-based graphical editor. It's scope would be limited to the
> graphical layout, positioning, linkage, attributes, etc of LZX
> objects. It would not be code editing-focused -- there are tons of
> tools for that. It would be written in LZX, and would run in the
> browser. It would support "round-trip" editing, so that you could
> edit with an IDE/code editor, and then the visual editor, and then
> the code editor again, without loss. The back-end, which would read
> and manipulate the LZX files, would be written in Java, and would run
> in the same context as OL itself.
>
> What do you think of this approach? Right now it's just a concept.
>
> - D.
>
> On Mar 22, 2007, at 8:47 PM, mt1 wrote:
>
> > David,
> >
> > What is going on this status ?
> > Are there any new IDE idea ?
> >
> > Or dose anyone working on Eclipse IDE version up?
> >
> > mt1
> >
> >
> > David Temkin wrote:
> >
> >> Mark,
> >>
> >> IDE4Laszlo is no longer being actively developed. In December, the
> >> Eclipse management committee voted to "archive" the project
> >> because of
> >> a lack of development activity. While it may be resuscitated in the
> >> future, the current state of affairs is that IDE4Laszlo is not an
> >> active Eclipse Foundation project and cannot be downloaded from
> >> eclipse.org.
> >>
> >> The OpenLaszlo team is 100% focused on OpenLaszlo 4 now, and doesn't
> >> have the cycles to update the IDE4Laszlo to match OL4, or to address
> >> the various issues with IDE4Laszlo installation and performance. The
> >> IBM engineers who wrote the original code are also otherwise occupied
> >> now, and the project has not garnered enough outside interest to move
> >> it forward in a meaningful way.
> >>
> >> In the meantime, we will make a snapshot (source and binary) of
> >> IDE4Laszlo available from OpenLaszlo.org, but it is not supported, is
> >> not compatible with OL4, and its future is not guaranteed.
> >>
> >> However, one thing is certain, and that is that some developers would
> >> value an OpenLaszlo-focused IDE. You can get a lot done with an XML-
> >> capable IDE or editor right now, but we definitely understand that
> >> there are advantages to an IDE that is OL-centric, and that those
> >> advantages are critical to some developers.
> >>
> >> Toward that end, Laszlo Systems has been investigating various
> >> options
> >> to restart this project or to initiate an effort to create a
> >> different
> >> type of IDE altogether. The Laszlo team would welcome anyone
> >> interested in discussing a partnership (open source or commercial)
> >> around an OpenLaszlo IDE. We know that there have been several
> >> separate efforts to build IDEs that support OL; our interest is in a
> >> product-grade IDE that may or may not be an open source project.
> >>
> >> Of course, given that IDE4Laszlo is open source, and licensed under
> >> the Eclipse Public License, there is nothing to stop anyone from
> >> nothing to stop anyone from enhancing the code and making it into an
> >> active project, with or without the support of the Eclipse
> >> Foundation,
> >> Laszlo Systems, or IBM.
> >>
> >> I'm sorry to be the bearer of bad news, and do hope to have better
> >> news sometime after OL4 is released. In the meantime, I would
> >> personally welcome any ideas or proposals from developers on this
> >> list
> >> that would get the community closer to a production-grade,
> >> OpenLaszlo-focused IDE.
> >>
> >> best,
> >>
> >> David Temkin
> >> Founder and CTO
> >> Laszlo Systems
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Jan 21, 2007, at 5:39 AM, Patton, Mark J wrote:
> >>
> >>> Hello All,
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> I have been trying to locate and download the ide4laszlo eclipse
> >>> plugin and have had no luck.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Can anyone tell me where I might find it?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Thanks,
> >>>
> >>> Mark.
> >>>
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