[Laszlo-user] combo box bloat == 100 meg laszlo app

William Krick wkrick at eio-online.com
Mon Mar 27 14:10:43 EST 2006


Checkboxes and radio buttons just don't look good with the way our app is
laid out...

http://files.3feetunder.com/combos.png




-----Original Message-----
From: Elliot Winard [mailto:enw at laszlosystems.com]
Sent: Monday, March 27, 2006 2:04 PM
To: William Krick
Cc: Laszlo-User
Subject: Re: [Laszlo-user] combo box bloat == 100 meg laszlo app


Wouldn't it make more sense to use checkboxes rather than comboboxes if the
user is choosing between Yes & No?


On Fri, 24 Mar 2006, William Krick wrote:

> My app has a lot of Yes/No comboboxes.
>
> Would there be any benefit to making them all datacomboboxes and pointing
> them all at the same dataset containing two items, "yes" and "no"?
>
> Does changing the selection in one datacombobox, navigate all
datacomboboxes
> linked to the same dataset?
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jim Grandy [mailto:jgrandy at laszlosystems.com]
> Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2006 6:48 PM
> To: William Krick
> Cc: Laszlo-User
> Subject: Re: [Laszlo-user] combo box bloat == 100 meg laszlo app
>
>
> datacombobox *is* newcombobox, just under a different name. The
> correspondence is:
>
> incubator/newcombobox becomes base/basedatacombobox
> incubator/lzcomombobox becomes lz/datacombobox
>
> The main cause of bloat and slow initialization with combobox is that
> it creates a floatinglist instance when it is initialized. So all of
> the comboboxes in your application will have an associated
> floatinglist instance.
>
> We improved that in newcombobox to share a floatinglist between all
> newcombobox instances using the same style. But this created bugs
> with data binding and synchronization, so with datacombobox we
> changed it so that each instance has its own floatinglist, but the
> floatinglist is only instantiated when needed.
>
> This is still a bit fragile because newcombobox/datacombobox is
> engineered to get its selection manager and data state from the
> floatinglist -- selection and value have to be managed manually until
> the floatinglist is created. There are improvements to be made there.
>
> Note that both newcombobox and datacombobox are entirely data-driven
> (hence the name of the latter), so you can't supply the menu items
> statically as you can with combobox.
>
> jim
>
>
> On Mar 23, 2006, at 1:26 PM, William Krick wrote:
>
> > I'm working on an OpenLaszlo application that has a lot of controls
> > for data
> > input.
> >
> > When I load our app up in a browser and check the memory use for that
> > browser instance in task manager, it's around 100 megs.
> >
> > Obviously this is WAY too large and something has to be done to
> > bring the
> > size down.
> >
> > After some digging, it appears that the majority of our apps memory
> > use is
> > due to combo boxes.  LOTS of comboboxes.
> >
> > The combobox is critical to our application so we need a solution that
> > brings the memory use for comboboxes way down.
> >
> > Also, a side effect of this bloat is that anything that dynamically
> > manipulates the contents of a combobox like adding or removing
> > items, or
> > refreshing the list when connected to a dataset, is unusably slow
> > in our
> > application.
> >
> > I know there was some work done on a "newcombobox" but it appears
> > that that
> > might have been abandoned in favor of the "datacombobox" which doesn't
> > really address the bloat problem.
> >
> > Can anyone tell me what, if anything, can be done to remedy our
> > situation?
> >
> > My co-worker is putting together and will post an example that
> > specifically
> > addresses the performance problems when manipulating comboboxes but
> > I just
> > wanted to query the list about a solution to the larger problem of
> > application bloat due to comboboxes.
> >
> > Is it possible to strip down the combobox and/or textlistitem to
> > make them
> > less memory hungry?
> >
> > ...
> > Krick
> >
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