[Laszlo-user] Why JavaScript

Oliver Steele steele at laszlosystems.com
Sun Oct 9 18:52:47 PDT 2005


These are interesting questions:  what it would take to support  
different languages on the OpenLaszlo platform, and what it would  
take to add type and interface declarations.  Fortunately, the second  
doesn't depend on the first.

(There's a third question of whether languages that require explicit  
typing are better or worse, to which the answer is clearly some cross  
between "different strokes for different folks" and "it depends".)

Target Language
The OpenLaszlo platform is targeted first at the Flash Player, and  
second at browsers (although this latter target has not been  
realized).  It consists of a compiler, and a set of runtime library  
code and components.  It does not include a virtual machine or other  
interpreter; it relies upon the interpretation services of its  
execution engine.  In both the Flash Player and browsers, that  
execution engine executes JavaScript.  In the case of the Flash  
Player, this because the bytecode set includes single bytecodes that  
implement the semantics of common JavaScript operations (such as  
function call, method call, and comparison, array, and concatenation  
operators with JavaScript semantics).  In the case of browsers, the  
execution engine executes JavaScript source code itself (after an  
internal step of compiling it to browser-specific bytecode in some  
cases --- but there is not a public API for a web site to download  
files that use this bytecode).

It would be possible to compile other languages, such as Java,  
Python, or Ruby, into Flash bytecode, and it would be possible to  
compile them into JavaScript source code that linked against  
JavaScript support libraries.  This, in fact, is similar to the  
strategy used by JVM implementations of these languages, such as  
Rhino, Jython, and JRuby.  The problem in doing this is performance.   
One operation in JavaScript typically compiles to one bytecode in a  
swf file, and runtime execution speed is already challenging.   
Compiling operations such as method calls or equality comparisons to  
the many bytecodes that would be necessary to implement Java, Python,  
or Ruby semantics would not be practical.  In JVM land, Rhino and  
Jython are orders of magnitude slower than Java.  This is often  
acceptable because, first, the JVM is orders of magnitude faster than  
the Flash bytecode interpreter; second, because these scripting  
languages are not used to implement the inner loop of an interactive  
graphical application.  (Where Python or Ruby are used to implement  
graphical applications, it's often using the C interpreters for these  
languages, and independently of this it's generally with a toolkit  
that is implemented directly in the JVM or in C, such as AWT or Swing  
in the case of Jython/JRuby, or such as Qt, GTK, or Cocoa in the case  
of CPython/CRuby.)

Explicit Typing
However, you don't actually need another language to get explicit  
typing (type declarations in source code).  The JavaScript 2.0  
proposal already defines type declarations, class, and interface  
definitions. You just need some work on the compiler.

There are these stages to the use of type declarations (after anger,  
bargaining, and grief :-):
1. Syntactic declarations.  Being able to write 'function f(a:  
Integer, b: String): Boolean' instead of simply 'function f(a, b)'.
2. Compile-time checking.  Getting a compiler warning for 'f(1, 2)'  
in the case above (because 2 isn't a string).
3. Runtime checking.  Getting a runtime warning for 'f(1, 2)', if  
it's used in a case where the compiler couldn't tell what 'f' named  
so it could warn you as in (2).

OpenLaszlo implements JavaScript 1.5 (aka ECMAScript 3), which  
doesn't have type declarations at all.  It's at stage 0: no type  
declarations at all.  (Actually there are type declarations on  
<attribute> elements, and there's a doc comment convention, processed  
by the doc tools, for annotating the types of JavaScript properties,  
parameters, and functions.)

ActionScript 2.0, used in Flex, is mostly equivalent to JavaScript 2  
(aka the proposal ECMAScript 4).  ActionScript 2.0 adds stages 1 and  
2.  (My understanding is that it doesn't do 3: that this is a  
compiler feature only.)

Adding this to OpenLaszlo has been on the wishlist for a long time  
--- since way before Action 2.0 or Flex for that matter --- but we've  
never had the time to do it.  It involves, first, a change to the  
JavaScript parser in $LPS_HOME/WEB-INF/server/sc/src/org/openlaszlo/ 
sc/Parser.jjt to accept optional type declarations in its definitions  
of VariableStatement, FunctionDeclaration, and FormalParameterList.   
This would be sufficient to add the ability to declare types,  
although they would only be used for documentation purposes, and not  
checked.  In other words, this would take OpenLaszlo to stage 1.

This would also lay the groundwork for changing the code in $LPS_HOME/ 
WEB-INF/server/sc/Compiler.py to store type information.  At that  
point, making use of this in more and more contexts in order to  
provide more and more compile-time warnings could be done on an  
ongoing basis, in order to provide increasingly higher-quality  
implementations of stage (2).

And if I'm wrong about ActionScript supporting (3), then passing the  
type information to the runtime would be simple (relative to (2).

There's a similar story about the 'interface', 'class' and access  
modifiers --- except that most of the parse rules for 'class' are  
already present in the parser.  (A preview release of OpenLaszlo in  
2002(!) supported the 'class' construct by compiling it into the  
appropriate manipulations of the constructor's property and its  
prototype's properties, we just didn't have time to maintain it in  
the face of some gymnastics necessary to make code in <script> blocks  
work correctly with event callbacks and deferred instantiation.)

The first part of this is all JavaCC hacking, and the second part is  
Jython hacking; it doesn't require any knowledge of Flash or the  
Flash runtime.  Let me know if anyone's interested, and I can write  
up documentation for how it works now and how to do this.

Best,
Oliver
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