[Laszlo-dev] Open web demos showing SVG and Flash as backup

[Raju Bitter]

Actually this blog post I'm referring to is very interesting, since it  
shows how Adobe deals with "multi-runtime" API problems: http://www.andersblog.com/archives/2008/09/flash_on_the_be.html

Running into problems integrating <svg> into <mxml> is solved by  
defining a new standard (FXG), which is optimized for Flash  
(proprietary) and your creative tools (http://www.developmentarc.com/site/2009/07/adobe-fireworks-fxg-export-updated/ 
). Which  means: they don't move away from defending their market  
share by inventing/building proprietary plugins.

On Sep 29, 2009, at 3:17 PM, Raju Bitter wrote:

> If you check out this video http://code.google.com/p/svgweb/ (Tech  
> Talk at Google recently on SVG Web and Open Web Advocacy from Brad  
> Neuberg), you'll see that the svgweb project is in very similar to  
> OL in the way we can deal with open web and open standards: enable  
> usage of HTML5/CSS3 - and by that enabling innovation - while still  
> supporting IE6/IE7.
>
> On Adobe/SVG: Flex4 has FXG, which is a modified version of SVG,  
> with adoption to better match the Flash 10/11 features: "When  
> initial work on an XML-based graphics interchange format began, the  
> natural first thought was to use SVG. However, there are key  
> differences between SVG and Flash Player’s graphics capabilities.  
> These include core differences in SVG and Flash’s rendering model  
> with regards to filters, transforms and text. Additionally, the  
> interchange format needed to be able to support future Flash Player  
> features, which would not necessarily map to SVG features. As such,  
> the decision was made to go with a new interchange format, FXG,  
> instead of having a non-standard implementation of SVG. FXG does  
> borrow from SVG whenever possible."
> http://www.andersblog.com/archives/2008/09/flash_on_the_be.html
>
> On Sep 28, 2009, at 9:33 PM, P T Withington wrote:
>
>> On 2009-09-28, at 04:42, Raju Bitter wrote:
>>
>>> It's interesting to see that the SVG folks have a demo showcase  
>>> which shows their application running as either SVG or Flash:
>>> http://codinginparadise.org/projects/svgweb/samples/demo.html
>>
>> Isn't that just because they have never succeeded in getting any  
>> browsers to support either native or plug-in SVG?
>>
>> What's weirder to me is that Adobe was a major backer of SVG.  Now  
>> they have the "means of production" (they could stealth distribute  
>> an SVG plug-in as part of the next Flash update), but they've never  
>> taken advantage of that.
>>
>> At one point, Henry demonstrated that we could use an SVG player as  
>> an LZX back-end; but if there are no SVG players, that's not really  
>> of interest.
>>
>>
>
>