[Laszlo-dev] Plan for platform-independent .lzo's (LPP-7184)

Raju Bitter rajubitter at me.com
Sat Oct 10 02:16:01 PDT 2009


Sounds good for SWF8, just support .lzo, but dont' invest any extra  
time into that runtime. Would be GREAT to have .lzo support in both  
SWF9/DHTML!!

On Oct 7, 2009, at 3:38 PM, Max Carlson wrote:

> I agree - let's do the least-effort way for now, and hope swf8 can  
> be phased out relatively soon!
>
> P T Withington wrote:
>> I think the question is whether to keep supporting swf8 the way it  
>> currently is (where it's code generator is mostly a duplicate of  
>> the new way) or to try to integrate it into the new way (which  
>> would mean re-modularizing the existing code generator).  I tend  
>> toward the former, as it is a least-effort, because I assume swf8  
>> will eventually be phased out.  OTOH, if you think swf8 will have  
>> to be maintained for a long time, the latter approach would be less  
>> effort in the long run (although more up front).
>> On 2009-10-07, at 04:41, Max Carlson wrote:
>>> This sounds like a fine plan - and a great way to clean up the  
>>> compiler and make it easier to support other runtimes in the  
>>> future.  One comment: we'll need to support swf8 for a while  
>>> because some of our biggest users require it.
>>>
>>> P T Withington wrote:
>>>> Currently our .lzo technology which allows you to write a  
>>>> compressed, linkable library from a library of LZX, only works  
>>>> for the swf8 platform.  We'd like to make this technology work  
>>>> across all platforms.
>>>> Here's a rough sketch of how I plan to do this:
>>>> Make a new subclass of JavascriptGenerator, DHTMLGenerator, and  
>>>> move the JS1-specific transforms into that subclass.   
>>>> DHTMLGenerator will be parallel to SWF9Generator, which is  
>>>> already a subclass of JavascriptGenerator.  There may be some  
>>>> simplifications I can make there, because some of the methods of  
>>>> SWF9Generator are just there to undo JS1-specific transforms that  
>>>> shouldn't have been in the superclass in the first place.
>>>> [If we wanted to continue to maintain swf8 as a platform, it  
>>>> would make sense to make a new subclass of JavascriptGenerator,  
>>>> SWF8Generator, and move only the byte-code generation from  
>>>> CodeGenerator to there, leaving behind the duplicate platform- 
>>>> independent tranformations that are in CodeGenerator.]
>>>> Once JavascriptGenerator is not longer making platform-specific  
>>>> transformations, make another subclass, LZSGenerator, that  
>>>> generates the script portion of .lzo's.  This will output to the  
>>>> 'lzs' platform, the extended Javascript that our script compiler  
>>>> takes as an input.  It will also handle the minimizing of  
>>>> internal variable names and the compression of the output.
>>>> Comments and input welcome.
>>>
>>> -- 
>>> Regards,
>>> Max Carlson
>>> OpenLaszlo.org
>
> -- 
> Regards,
> Max Carlson
> OpenLaszlo.org



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