[Laszlo-dev] CommonJS effort sets JavaScript on path for world domination

[Max Carlson]

Well...  Yes!  Rhino is much less of a hack than Jython.  And much 
better supported!

P T Withington wrote:
> Ha! After all the work I did to rip out Jython you want me to cast the compiler back into another dynamic language?
> 
> On 2009-12-02, at 13:27, Max Carlson wrote:
> 
>> I don't know about JVM vs JavaScriptCore/V8 performance.  But I do know that Rhino has a lot of overhead when moving stuff across the Java/JavaScript divide, which may have been a pain point.
>>
>> Last night I was fantasizing about embedding Rhino in the compiler so we could hack the AST with something more dynamic than Java.  Not sure how practical that is, but it could be cool to play with when you're done with all the compiler refactoring!
>>
>> P T Withington wrote:
>>> Which is kinda funny, since it is compiling to Java byte codes.
>>> Does this mean that Javascript VM's are out-performing Java VM's these days?
>>> On 2009-12-02, at 12:57, Max Carlson wrote:
>>>> Yeah, I believe the original webtop server used Rhino.  Not sure why that was scrapped in favor of 'Pure Java' - probably for performance. Rhino is no where near some of the more modern JS engines in terms of performance...
>>>>
>>>> P T Withington wrote:
>>>>> They never would have slipped that by the Times editors!
>>>>> I thought Adam's initial wt work used Javascript on the server?
>>>>> On 2009-12-01, at 22:53, Henry Minsky wrote:
>>>>>> That is a thought-provoking article. And we do need some kind of a standard
>>>>>> module system...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I liked this quote
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "In these post-QBasic times, HTML, CSS, and JavaScript have become for every
>>>>>> ungainly, bespectacled troglodyte the gateway from social exile to deeper
>>>>>> social exile."
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 10:37 PM, Max Carlson <max at openlaszlo.org> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://arstechnica.com/web/news/2009/12/commonjs-effort-sets-javascript-on-path-for-world-domination.ars?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=rss
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Interesting!  I'd love to be able to develop server-side code in
>>>>>>> JavaScript.  I was just chatting with a friend (and OL developer) the other
>>>>>>> day about being able to describe server-side behavior as part of LZX, and
>>>>>>> have part of the application run on the server and part on the client.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So many possibilities!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>> Max Carlson
>>>>>>> OpenLaszlo.org
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> -- 
>>>>>> Henry Minsky
>>>>>> Software Architect
>>>>>> hminsky at laszlosystems.com
>>>> -- 
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Max Carlson
>>>> OpenLaszlo.org
>> -- 
>> Regards,
>> Max Carlson
>> OpenLaszlo.org
> 

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Regards,
Max Carlson
OpenLaszlo.org