[Laszlo-dev] Fwd: reference nave pane has dark background

[P T Withington]

Just to try to clarify my reasoning:

In my experience, it is best practice to remove the work-around when  
the underlying bug is fixed, otherwise the underlying bug may recur  
and you will not notice it.  The wallpaper metaphor is a standard  
metaphor, I'm just passing it on.  It holds more meaning for me than  
'canary in a coal mine' metaphors, but maybe that works for others.   
Removing the work-around is like replacing a dead canary.

On 2008-12-05, at 09:47EST, P T Withington wrote:

> I filed a bug. http://jira.openlaszlo.org/jira/browse/LPP-7439
>
> There is nothing wrong with setting the bgcolor explicitly.
>
> What is wrong is that a previously working program changed its  
> behavior inexplicably and by papering over the bug, we risk missing  
> a more systemic issue.  I'm sorry if I insulted you by suggesting  
> you like floral-design wallpaper, it is just the standard software  
> engineering metaphor, not intended to impugn your character.  I  
> would have said nav.xml is "the canary in the coal mine", but then  
> the software geeks would not know what I was talking about.
>
>
> On 2008-12-05, at 09:41EST, Lou Iorio wrote:
>
>> I think I'm insulted.
>>
>> What's wrong with setting the background color explicitly instead of
>> relying on the default?
>>
>> I was going to file another bug for the color issue, but I don't  
>> know what
>> category under which to file it. Perhaps you could file it.
>>
>> BTW, I would never consider wallpaper.
>>
>> On Dec 5, 2008, at 10:32 AM, P T Withington wrote:
>>
>>> This is called 'papering over' the bug -- equivalent to when you  
>>> notice a crack in the foundation of your house has echoed up into  
>>> the second-story bedroom wall and you 'fix it' by installing new  
>>> wallpaper.
>>>
>>> On 2008-12-04, at 18:04EST, Lou Iorio wrote:
>>>
>>>> I can make the change (if Don doesn't mind), but I see no reason  
>>>> why it should
>>>> be temporary. However, you have so much more knowledge than I,  
>>>> why don't
>>>> _you_ file the bug to Josh? :-)
>>>>
>>>> On Dec 4, 2008, at 6:57 PM, P T Withington wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> So you could make the temp fix, mark it to be reverted when the  
>>>>> bug you file to Josh is fixed. :)
>>>>>
>>>>> On Dec 4, 2008, at 17:29, Lou Iorio <lou at louiorio.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I agree that we need to know the root cause in case this breaks  
>>>>>> someone
>>>>>> else's code, but this seems like a good solution for the  
>>>>>> reference.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Dec 4, 2008, at 6:08 PM, P T Withington wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> We need to know the root cause...  Perhaps assign to Josh, who  
>>>>>>> has played with colors a lot lately?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 2008-12-04, at 17:02EST, Donald Anderson wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> FWIW, changing the three tabpanes in docs/src/nav/nav.lzx to  
>>>>>>>> have an explicit bgcolor fixes this:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> <     <tabpane width="${parent.width}">
>>>>>>>> ---
>>>>>>>> >     <tabpane width="${parent.width}" bgcolor="0xffffff">
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Should I do that, or does someone want to chase the root cause?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Dec 4, 2008, at 11:05 AM, Lou Iorio wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Anyone know anything more about this?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Begin forwarded message:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> From: Donald Anderson <dda at ddanderson.com>
>>>>>>>>>> Date: December 4, 2008 11:58:07 AM GMT-04:00
>>>>>>>>>> To: Lou Iorio <lou at louiorio.com>
>>>>>>>>>> Cc: Amy Muntz <amuntz at laszlosystems.com>
>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: reference nave pane has dark background
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hi Lou,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> No it wasn't intentional and I don't know what caused it.   
>>>>>>>>>> I don't remember
>>>>>>>>>> doing any doc work for about the last month....
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> - Don
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Dec 4, 2008, at 8:56 AM, Lou Iorio wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Don,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I don't know if this is a recent change (I think it is),  
>>>>>>>>>>> but the nav pane background
>>>>>>>>>>> is considerably darker than in previous versions. It now  
>>>>>>>>>>> displays black text on
>>>>>>>>>>> a dark gray background. To me, at least, this is harder to  
>>>>>>>>>>> read. Was this change
>>>>>>>>>>> intentional?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> This screen shot shows the current reference (left) and  
>>>>>>>>>>> the 4.1.1 reference (left).
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> <navpane.tiff>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Don Anderson
>>>>>>>>>> Java/C/C++, Berkeley DB, systems consultant
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> voice: 617-547-7881
>>>>>>>>>> email: dda at ddanderson.com
>>>>>>>>>> www: http://www.ddanderson.com
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Don Anderson
>>>>>>>> Java/C/C++, Berkeley DB, systems consultant
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> voice: 617-547-7881
>>>>>>>> email: dda at ddanderson.com
>>>>>>>> www: http://www.ddanderson.com
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
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