[Laszlo-dev] Fwd: reference nave pane has dark background

P T Withington ptw at pobox.com
Fri Dec 5 06:47:41 PST 2008


I filed a bug. http://jira.openlaszlo.org/jira/browse/LPP-7439

There is nothing wrong with setting the bgcolor explicitly.

What is wrong is that a previously working program changed its  
behavior inexplicably and by papering over the bug, we risk missing a  
more systemic issue.  I'm sorry if I insulted you by suggesting you  
like floral-design wallpaper, it is just the standard software  
engineering metaphor, not intended to impugn your character.  I would  
have said nav.xml is "the canary in the coal mine", but then the  
software geeks would not know what I was talking about.


On 2008-12-05, at 09:41EST, Lou Iorio wrote:

> I think I'm insulted.
>
> What's wrong with setting the background color explicitly instead of
> relying on the default?
>
> I was going to file another bug for the color issue, but I don't  
> know what
> category under which to file it. Perhaps you could file it.
>
> BTW, I would never consider wallpaper.
>
> On Dec 5, 2008, at 10:32 AM, P T Withington wrote:
>
>> This is called 'papering over' the bug -- equivalent to when you  
>> notice a crack in the foundation of your house has echoed up into  
>> the second-story bedroom wall and you 'fix it' by installing new  
>> wallpaper.
>>
>> On 2008-12-04, at 18:04EST, Lou Iorio wrote:
>>
>>> I can make the change (if Don doesn't mind), but I see no reason  
>>> why it should
>>> be temporary. However, you have so much more knowledge than I, why  
>>> don't
>>> _you_ file the bug to Josh? :-)
>>>
>>> On Dec 4, 2008, at 6:57 PM, P T Withington wrote:
>>>
>>>> So you could make the temp fix, mark it to be reverted when the  
>>>> bug you file to Josh is fixed. :)
>>>>
>>>> On Dec 4, 2008, at 17:29, Lou Iorio <lou at louiorio.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I agree that we need to know the root cause in case this breaks  
>>>>> someone
>>>>> else's code, but this seems like a good solution for the  
>>>>> reference.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Dec 4, 2008, at 6:08 PM, P T Withington wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> We need to know the root cause...  Perhaps assign to Josh, who  
>>>>>> has played with colors a lot lately?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 2008-12-04, at 17:02EST, Donald Anderson wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> FWIW, changing the three tabpanes in docs/src/nav/nav.lzx to  
>>>>>>> have an explicit bgcolor fixes this:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> <     <tabpane width="${parent.width}">
>>>>>>> ---
>>>>>>> >     <tabpane width="${parent.width}" bgcolor="0xffffff">
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Should I do that, or does someone want to chase the root cause?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Dec 4, 2008, at 11:05 AM, Lou Iorio wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Anyone know anything more about this?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Begin forwarded message:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> From: Donald Anderson <dda at ddanderson.com>
>>>>>>>>> Date: December 4, 2008 11:58:07 AM GMT-04:00
>>>>>>>>> To: Lou Iorio <lou at louiorio.com>
>>>>>>>>> Cc: Amy Muntz <amuntz at laszlosystems.com>
>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: reference nave pane has dark background
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hi Lou,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> No it wasn't intentional and I don't know what caused it.  I  
>>>>>>>>> don't remember
>>>>>>>>> doing any doc work for about the last month....
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> - Don
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Dec 4, 2008, at 8:56 AM, Lou Iorio wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hi Don,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I don't know if this is a recent change (I think it is),  
>>>>>>>>>> but the nav pane background
>>>>>>>>>> is considerably darker than in previous versions. It now  
>>>>>>>>>> displays black text on
>>>>>>>>>> a dark gray background. To me, at least, this is harder to  
>>>>>>>>>> read. Was this change
>>>>>>>>>> intentional?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> This screen shot shows the current reference (left) and the  
>>>>>>>>>> 4.1.1 reference (left).
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> <navpane.tiff>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Don Anderson
>>>>>>>>> Java/C/C++, Berkeley DB, systems consultant
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> voice: 617-547-7881
>>>>>>>>> email: dda at ddanderson.com
>>>>>>>>> www: http://www.ddanderson.com
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Don Anderson
>>>>>>> Java/C/C++, Berkeley DB, systems consultant
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> voice: 617-547-7881
>>>>>>> email: dda at ddanderson.com
>>>>>>> www: http://www.ddanderson.com
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
>>
>



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