[Laszlo-dev] A question for potential contributors
gse at laszlosystems.com
Fri Jan 6 16:30:12 PST 2006
Yeah, what Elliot said.
While we're at it, I hadn't used p4 before I started at Laszlo but I like
it pretty well. I don't think anyone will mind using the software itself.
On Fri, 6 Jan 2006, Elliot Winard wrote:
> The open source zealots that I know would not use p4, but they also aren't
> interested in contributing to Laszlo until we compile to something that runs
> in an open source container like DHTML or a SVG player. I doubt we'd have many
> of these folks working on Laszlo contributions.
> Switching from Subversion to P4, given that the license is free, won't be too
> difficult for folks to manage. I personally use Perforce for work and svn for
> small home projects without any problems.
> On Fri, 6 Jan 2006, Jim Grandy wrote:
> > Hi folks,
> > As we start 2006, the OpenLaszlo team is looking seriously at how we might
> > improve how we support external contributors. The biggest problem right now is
> > that we don't have a way to allow non-Laszlo employees to commit changes
> > directly into the sources -- all changes have to be integrated by a team
> > member. This is frustrating for our most passionate and dedicated
> > contributors, and limits the scope of projects that our partners can take on.
> > Currently we use Perforce for internal source management, and the Subversion
> > database available on openlaszlo.org is a read-only copy. We will be moving
> > the OpenLaszlo sources into their own repository soon, with read-write access
> > from the Internet.
> > We are considering whether to build this new OpenLaszlo repository using
> > Subversion or Perforce. We like Subversion because it is more
> > familiar/acceptable to the open source community, it is open source itself,
> > and because it has some nice features (like a clean model for disconnected
> > clients).
> > However, as some of you have discovered, we have run into cases where our
> > Subversion database has become corrupted. Our research suggests that this is
> > not uncommon with relatively new repositories, and the recommended solution
> > appears to be to throw out the repository (including change history) and start
> > from scratch with a new database.
> > Our alternative is Perforce, which is already integrated into our build and
> > backup scripts, and which has an open source license. However, we are
> > concerned that some folks will not want to download the p4 client to their
> > machine, and that we'll lose participants because of this choice.
> > So I guess I have two questions. First, whether anyone can set our minds to
> > rest regarding subversion and corrupt databases. And second, if we can't reach
> > an appropriate level of confidence with svn, how would you feel about using
> > p4?
> > Thanks,
> > jim
> > Jim Grandy
> > Director of Platform Engineering
> > Laszlo Systems, Inc.
> > jimgrandy at laszlosystems.com
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