[Laszlo-dev] case sensitivity in Laszlo

Henry Minsky henry.minsky at gmail.com
Fri Jan 21 10:27:13 PST 2005


As long as Google can handle searches for those strings properly ... 


On Fri, 21 Jan 2005 10:20:59 -0800, Eric Bloch <bloch at laszlosystems.com> wrote:
> namespaces lz:button would help here.
> 
> -E
> 
> 
> John Sundman wrote:
> > I'm with Henry on this one, although I admid that I have not thought
> > through the implications.
> >
> > jrs
> >
> > On Jan 20, 2005, at 12:18 PM, Henry Minsky wrote:
> >
> >>  Note that there is a real advantage to having unique class names that
> >> are prefixed by "Lz". If you type LzDatapointer into google, you get
> >> the laszlo reference page for it as the first hit. We should
> >> definitely strive to preserve this extremely useful naming, i.e., keep
> >> our classnames unique as possible, so that we get indexed
> >> preferentially in Google.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Wed, 19 Jan 2005 17:25:08 -0500, Oliver Steele
> >> <steele at laszlosystems.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> I'm just fleshing out the examples a bit here:
> >>>
> >>> On Jan 18, 2005, at 11:21 PM, P T Withington wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> People are uncomfortable with this complicated story.  Three ideas
> >>>> have been proposed for making it simpler:
> >>>>
> >>>> 1. Capitalize all class names, change all tags that are implemented by
> >>>> such classes to have capitalized names, e.g., <Canvas ... />, <View
> >>>> ... />, etc.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> E.g. the windowed version of hello world would look like:
> >>>    <Canvas>
> >>>      <Window>
> >>>        <Text>Hello World</Text>
> >>>      </Window>
> >>>    </Canvas>
> >>>
> >>> This begs the question of whether to also capitalize, or
> >>> intercapitalize, attribute names:
> >>>    <view onclick="f()"/> <!-- the status quo -->
> >>>    <View onclick="f()"/> <!-- proposal (1) with unmodified attribute
> >>> names -->
> >>>    <View onClick="f()"/> <!-- proposal (1) with modified attribute names
> >>> -->
> >>>
> >>>> 2. Make up a rule that <class name="foo" ... /> creates a class named
> >>>> Foo, but you still instantiate it with a tag <foo ... />.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> E.g.:
> >>>    <canvas layout="axis: y">
> >>>      <class name="box" width="10" height="10" bgcolor="red"/>
> >>>      <box/>
> >>>      <button onclick="new Box(canvas)">Box</button>
> >>>      <button onclick="new Window(canvas)">Window</button>
> >>>    </canvas>
> >>>
> >>> (The XML '<box/>' looks natural, and the JavaScript 'new Box()' looks
> >>> natural, but they don't match.)
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> 3. Maintain the status quo.  Create a style guide that suggests using
> >>>> lower-case names for classes that define tags.  Create lower-case
> >>>> aliases for the built-in types and classes.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> There are actually two possiblities: (3a) use lower-case only for
> >>> non-ECMAScript classes, and (3b) use lower-case for built-in types and
> >>> classes two.
> >>>
> >>> The XML for these looks the same as the status quo:
> >>>    <canvas>
> >>>      <window>
> >>>        <text>Hello World</text>
> >>>      </window>
> >>>    </canvas>
> >>>
> >>> JavaScript references to Laszlo classes look the same in (3a) and (3b):
> >>>    <canvas layout="axis: y">
> >>>      <class name="box" width="10" height="10" bgcolor="red"/>
> >>>      <box/>
> >>>      <button onclick="new box(canvas)">Box</button>
> >>>      <button onclick="new window(canvas)">Window</button>
> >>>    </canvas>
> >>>
> >>> The difference is that (3a) uses the names of standard JavaScript
> >>> classes:
> >>>    var n = (new String(123)).valueOf();
> >>>    var a = (new Number('2').valueOf();
> >>>    var max = Number.MAX_VALUE;
> >>> while (3b) recommends lowercase names:
> >>>    var n = (new string(123)).valueOf();
> >>>    var a = (new number('2').valueOf();
> >>>    var max = number.MAX_VALUE;
> >>> (although the uppercase names will work too in (3b)).
> >>>
> >>> (3a) is inconsistent between LZX classes and JavaScript classes; (3b)
> >>> is inconsistent with other systems that embed JavaScript, and requires
> >>> that libraries that are shared with them either fork or don't use the
> >>> recommended capitalization.
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